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Rudy, Why On Earth Did You Buy So Much Land?

November 16th, 2009
The previous owners left us a gift...

The previous owners left us a gift...

So if you’re following the story, you know that my family … well, extended family … has ended up with a slew of land. Honestly speaking it’s more land than we need. So what is the point of all of this, and why did we buy as much as we did?

The obvious reasons

Well, for one, it was available at the right price. It was hard to pass it up. As they say, land is the one thing they’re not making any more of. So considering that it was there, picking it up was pretty much a no brainer.

Another thing to keep in mind is that we didn’t buy it all at once. We bought it in more than one step and each purchase had a specific reason. It was fantastic how we got the opportunity to pick up contiguous land in more than one chunk like that.

The real reason

But the real reason why we bought as much as we did was to provide a future blessing to our families. This bears a bit more explanation I think.

While we all aren’t necessarily of the same mind preparedness wise, we all certainly have some commonly held beliefs and goals. One of those is to provide our children with a specific kind of life style that can’t come from a city or a suburban area.

We certainly can’t guarantee how our kids will grow up and what they’ll believe or want for their families but one of the key things we want to allow for is to be able to split off parcels of the land for our kids to have if they so desire. I can speak for all of my family when I say that we would love to have our kids and grand kids decide to follow in our footsteps.

Some people say this sounds like a compound or something, which I guess it technically could be. But more than anything, it is a family coming together and choosing to live near each other. Independent yet together.

Summing it all up

I personally can’t see a better situation for my kids than to be living close enough to walk to their grandparents and their cousins, aunts, and uncles. What could be better than that?

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How We Found Our Perfect Place

November 12th, 2009

ourpondIf you recall, I was writing the other day about how we started looking for land to park our extended family on.  We were looking high and low, and as you probably know if you’ve done this before, it’s tough to find just the right spot for just the right price.

We looked in four or five different states, and looked at countless pieces of land.  This one was too small, this one was too close to town, this one had no timber, this one was on a hillside.  Until my little sister managed to find something that sounded interesting.

Enter the Mafia Loan

There was a gentleman who had moved into the area and bought a huge chunk of land that he intended to split with his brother.  This guy bought about 400 acres of land in a timber/pasture mix.  The land he purchased was an old homestead that had been lying vacant for years.

Well, unfortunately for him his brother backed out and decided not to move out there.  Leaving our poor land holder with a mafia style loan that he needed to get out from under.  That’s where we came in!

A hidden diamond

Turkey and Deer are all over ... apparantly so are bears!

Turkey and Deer are all over ... apparantly so are bears!

We went out and took a look at it.  It looked pretty good, though there were a few question marks about it.  My dad and I walked the place with a local realtor who happened to also be on the county fish and wildlife board.  Turns out that this land is what he called ‘a hidden diamond’ and if we didn’t buy it, he might!

Long story short, we ended up buying a big chunk of the land, and some long time family friends bought another bit of it adjacent to ours.  The guy we bought it from offered a final 20 acre plot for sale a few months later.  We decided to buy that as well as it secured our access rights.

Now there was no part of land that still had easement rights through our land so we could completely control access as we saw fit.  All in all we’ve ended up with just short of 200 acres between all of us.

But what about the criteria?

Water:  The place has a seasonal stream, a pond, and well water is available, though deep.   We’ve had to dig a couple wells to 200ft in order to get a high flow rate.  In the years since we’ve purchased the place, we’ve since found an artesian well that supplies far more water than we all need, and are in the process of developing that and putting a water distribution system into place.

propertyoneMixed Timber and Meadow:  Most of the land is timber and sparse timber/meadow mix.  There is about 40 acres of pasture land that needs significant rehabilitation work.  There’s another 30 or so acres of dense timber which is marketable if we want.  Most of the rest was thinned out 15-20 years ago but remains good timber land.

Utilities:  We’ve brought power and telephone in at surprisingly low cost.  And we’re even on the edge of the range for DSL access so we can get high speed internet access.  Extra bonus points!

Seclusion:  We’re half an hour from the two closest towns and about an hour from the closest major city.  We’re off the beaten path and a few miles down a dirt road.  Generally speaking we’re pretty much completely out of the way.  Our land is surrounded by other large holdings, farms, and ranches, and there’s also state land and timber company land nearby.  Overall, we don’t expect development to come our way any time soon.

Sounds great!  How are you going to get out there?

Always the hard part, right?  At the moment we have a trailer out there that we spend vacation type time in during the summer months.  My folks have just finished their place and will be moving out there next year.

Next year my wife and Ihope to begin building a home with the intent of moving out there full time within the next couple of years.  I’ll certainly chronicle our adventures here.  One of the biggest things that we’re worried about is income.  As my career is technical in nature it tends to keep me in the urban areas I despise.  I’m working on that too, and if alternate income generation is of interest to folks, let me know and I can post about that a bit too!

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How My Family Decided To Band Together

November 11th, 2009

forestroad-trekgraham@flickrWhen I was growing up my family lived on a small farm in the woods. This was a larger plot of land that had been subdivided between our family, my aunt and uncle’s family, and a third family we all were close to. It was a fantastic way to grow up, and even though we haven’t lived there for years, I still remember that place fondly.

The family disperses…

Fast forward several (ok, quite a few) years. My folks and my sisters now live geographically dispersed. The level of preparedness-mindedness (is that even a word?) varies widely, though myself and one of my sisters are relatively like minded, and one of my other sisters practices many preparedness skills without actually knowing about it.

Independent of one another, though we talked about it somewhat loosely, my sister, my parents, and I began looking for property for ourselves. Slowly but surely after talking a bit more with the entire family, we realized that what we REALLY wanted, preparedness mindset or not, was to have the entire family together on one large plot of land.

The search for the perfect land begins…

pasture-zermie@flickrWe all continued the search for the perfect land. The problem was that our vision of perfect differed somewhat significantly. Nonetheless, we continued to search. Our search was constrained generally to the North Western States.

We searched pretty hard, and really beat the pavement looking for the perfect land that met all of our common criteria.

What were the criteria used for the search?

pond-judybaxter@flickrLike I said, some of the criteria we used were wildly different. We all agreed upon the following though:

Water: Having some sort of water available was a necessity. It could be well based, but having some form of surface water was important.

Mixed Timber and Meadow: Ideally we wanted a mix of timber and meadow or pasture land. Some of us wanted to have livestock, others wanted the woodsy lifestyle. We wanted something that made both realistic.

Utilities Available: While being self sufficient is a great thing, having grid power and telephone was a necessity. If needed, we could pay to bring it in, but it had to be available

Seclusion: We didn’t want to be really close to town, but we wanted to be close enough to neighbors and not incredibly far out. 20-30 minutes drive to the nearest town seemed reasonable.

Off the Beaten Path: Like the last criteria, we didn’t want to be on a main road, or in a really visible location.

What was the result of the search?

Find out tomorrow! While you wait, tell me about what you would look for … or what you’ve already found!

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